Beer Sessions Radio Meets Beer Nation



Jimmy, Ray, Rick Ring, David Urbanos, and Seth Wright getting ready for Beer Nation interview


It was a lot like those cartoon crossovers from Hanna Barbara, but with better animation and a lot more beer.

This week, Jimmy and Ray were joined on the air by an incredible panel. David Urbanos of The Ginger Man, a temple for craft beer lovers with a dizzying selection of craft beer, talked about the joys and challenges of maintaining 70 beers on tap. For David, curating the tap list makes for happy work. Check out The Ginger Man website for information about an exciting event with Schlenkerla Brewmaster Mathias Trum and Chef Wolfgang Thiel on November 16th.

Author of Hungry City, Carolyn Steel shared her native knowledge of English pub culture and enlightened us to the term “small beer”.

Seth Wright and Mike Winn of Beer Nation bantered with the in-studio crew about what they’ve seen in the craft beer movement since beginning their web series. They’ve interviewed a bearded Shane Welch, had fun at GABF and even interviewed Jimmy and Ray The interview with Jimmy and Ray will air at a later date (look here for details) but in the mean time, enjoy the latest episode celebrating Yom Kippur at GABF!

Want to Drink Like a Pro? Ask a Bro…

Beer expert and friend of The Good Beer Seal, Chris Cuzme recently put together an A to Z of Beer for BroBible. If you don’t know Cuzme, you haven’t been paying attention. This cat is everywhere! He is the 2010 President of the Malted Barley Appreciation Society, co-founder of the NYC Degustation Advisory Team, and 1/3 of the eagerly awaited Wandering Star Brewing Company. Even if you’re not a Bro, you’ll still be able to learn a thing or two from Cuzme!

Chuck Duffney Brews Beer

Chuck Duffney of dieseldrafts.com is a talented brewer and frequent guest on Beer Sessions Radio. After a taping one night, Chuck pulled out a growler of a brown ale and set it on the table at Roberta’s Restaurant. As we kicked back a few glasses, Chuck told us the story of his tasty brew called Liberty Bell and how it came to be. The table agreed, the beer was delicious and the story well worth passing on. Without further ado, here is the Liberty Bell’s true story


Justin (Captain Lawrence Brewing), Chuck Duffney (Dieseldrafts.com), Scott Vaccaro (Captain Lawrence Brewing Company)

Liberty Bell- American Brown Ale’s Different Leanings

by Chuck Duffney

Rock & Roll, Comedy, Brown Ale.  The Brits often get there first, but America makes things taste better.  For me brewing is about people, bringing people together and getting to know others.  I like to brew beer that the drinker is going to enjoy, not just what I want to have, and doing that spurs a dialog with my friends and I come to understand their tastes better.  There is a beer for everyone, even those that don’t drink alcohol.  This story is about how one recipe reacted to life’s ever-changing demands and morphed 3 times to be the beer the drinker wanted.

Examples of American Brown Ale can vary in their flavor profile.  Roast or chocolate notes should always be present. While the balance may lean towards more caramel tones and residual sweetness, other beers will be more bitter with hop aromas as a focus.  American Brown Ales showcase American hops, not to the degree of the Pale Ales of this land, but citrus hops are moderately used for flavor and aroma.  Always the beer is brown, not amber or black.  The key with brown ales is balance, there are many flavors but each is present only in moderate to low levels.

Through slight changes in the recipe and process, a brewer can lean the balance of the beer in different directions to highlight desired flavors.  A couple years ago I was brewing a beer for my buddy’s birthday; Tom said to me that he wanted a brown ale with a clear roast character, a strong American hop bouquet that wasn’t Cascades and a little kick in the pants with the ABV.  He also made it clear that he did not want it to be sweet, no residual sweetness.

For his brew I chose two of my favorite hops varieties, Centennial and Amarillo.  I upped the charges at 15 and 5 minutes left in the boil to increase the taste and aroma.  Roasted malt is essential for getting the roast and chocolate flavors in the beer, and also add color, but for balance I avoid the malts over 400 SRM.  Caramel malts are also needed to give the caramel or toffee notes, however my friend wanted a drier beer so I used just a little bit of Caramel 60 for color and body. More importantly, a key process control to produce the dry finish my friend requested was keeping the mash temperature low. This produced a more fermentable wort which I fed to a yeast known for fermenting clean and completely, reducing most of the sugar to alcohol.

The beer satisfied Tom’s craving, and we named it Liberty Bell.  Though the beer was brewed for his birthday, I was able to get it on tap just 10 days after brewday for my Super Bowl party.  At around 6% ABV the beer could get a party going.  This was my first time brewing for Tom and I hit all the main points he desired.  It helped that he had some understanding of beer flavor and was able to accurately describe what he wanted.  We drank the beer over several weeks and noticed how the flavors would mellow and the beer would become more drinkable.  At some point however the flavors he wanted became too subdued.  This became a major point of discussion for the next batch.

Tom married his lovely wife about 6 months later.  For their wedding I brewed 6 different beers, and Liberty Bell was his top choice.  It was the largest event for which I had ever brewed, and the largest amount of my beer ever being served at once.  What’s more it was the first time I wouldn’t be able to directly represent my beer, the caterers would be pouring. There was much to discuss to prepare for such an important occasion, but this recipe received special attention.

My initial reaction to the beer on Super Bowl Sunday was that the roast character was too assertive.  I thought that perhaps I had dried out the beer too much.  Yet this was to Tom’s taste, he loved having the roast right in his face.  After a couple weeks the aggressive roast gave way to a delicious dark chocolate character.  Hop aroma was still strong and we knew the beer had hit its prime.  Drinking the beer over the course of several weeks let us plan the proper fermentation schedule for the wedding rendition of Liberty Bell.  It was important to use the same yeast strain to take advantage of this knowledge and have the beer at its prime on the big day.

Eventually the hop aromas diminished.  Yet I kept the hopping schedule the same because this brew was for an event on a single day so there wasn’t a need to increase the hops.  As this brew was for a large party we decided to back off a touch on the ABV.  This was achieved by slightly reducing the amount of base malt used.  The other malts remained unchanged to keep their relative balance the same.

This batch produced the beer Tom wanted that day, and was well received by most people at the wedding.  Not everyone wants these flavors in their beers so there were lighter brews available for others.  Liberty Bell was there for Tom and our discussions over many pints for the weeks around his birthday led to the right beer for him.  Just a few days after the wedding I left for Chicago to study at Siebel Institute.

Going through the World Brewing Academy program was an invaluable experience.  The knowledge gained in such an intensive program is enormous, but the people you meet change your life.  Industry connections were formed, and close friendships solidified over man’s greatest drink.  During our time in München I made friends with many locals.  One blue-eyed Bavarian named Belle caught my attention and inspired the latest interpretation of Liberty Bell.

Belle was coming to America and I was trying to learn her tastes for beer over the phone.  During the WBA program you are always drinking with other trained palates, people educated in beer flavor identification.  When a friend lacks the background to accurately describe the desired flavors, I have conversations about other beers they have tried and also other foods that they like.

Helles, Belle told me, was too bitter for her taste.  Helles is known to be the sweetest of the light lagers, but that doesn’t invalidate her reaction to the beer.  I needed to find something to which she has had a positive reaction.  Talking about other beers I knew she had tried, I found she liked Weiss more which lacked the crispness of a lager and had a fuller body.  In her words it wasn’t as bitter.

I wanted more information about her tastes before deciding on Liberty Bell.  I knew Belle liked chocolate, what woman doesn’t, and so I asked her about the kinds of chocolate she preferred.  Upon discovering she enjoyed the dark bitter chocolate more than milk, I realized it wasn’t bitterness exactly that she disliked in Helles but how that flavor was created and what was balancing it.  The roasty chocolate provided a pleasing bitterness to her palate.  So the most recent Liberty Bell was modified to be a sweeter beer, with residual sweetness, but the base ingredients remained the same.

To slant the balance from the assertively dry and roasty finish of Tom’s birthday beer to a sweet and malty beer for Belle’s taste 4 changes were made.  First the mash temperature was elevated, leaving more of the starches reduced only to unfermentable sugars, which are later broken down by enzymes in saliva creating residual sweetness.  Next I increased the amount of Caramel malt to provide more caramel and toffee flavors.  Hops were to be understated, so I reduced the 15 and 5 minute additions but kept the bittering additions the same.  Finally I used a different yeast strain, one known for being less attenuative and providing a fuller beer.

I shared this beer with Belle when she was in New York several weeks ago, and then again after 3 weeks on the road. When it was fresh, American hop aroma was the dominant aroma to my nose, but the beer was markedly sweeter while still presenting the dark chocolate flavors.  A month later the hop aroma had dwindled, I picked up roast as the dominant aroma and the beer seems balanced a touch sweeter because of it.  She enjoyed the beer initially, and I think now it may suit her palate even more.

Liberty Bell has rung differently the past three times it has struck.  Each time it has suited the person who inspired the brew.  The recipe has changed with my relationships, and has been a way to learn more about my friends.  I hope this story can help others learn how brewers work with ingredients and processes to create the desired balance of flavors in the finished beer.

Na zdrowie!


All 27 Good Beer Seal Bars!

Riley  and Rian McCormick took The Good Beer Seal Challenge over July Good Beer Month. From the beginning of July to Labor Day, Riley and Rian visited all 27 GBS bars taking notes and pictures on the way. Now you get the benefit of their experience! At long last, we present to you Riley McCormick’s Notes on New York City’s Good Beer Seal Bars:


Riley at Bronx Ale House

July was a 100% good beer month for my wife and I.  We had a wonderful time going to each and every of the 27 Good Beer Seal bars. Many of these craft beer bars we had never been to before. We were very excited by the chance to have some new, tasty beers and earn the super special edition t-shirts.  Jimmy Carbone promised the shirt was going to be the best looking beer shirt in the world!

A few things I learned from the new bars added this year:

124 Rabbit Club – Was completely new to me and I had a fun time finding it and enjoying some Belgian beers.  It was a really fun dark basement adventure (in the best way possible).

The Waterfront Ale House – Has a great lunch (my favorite is their french dip) and great beers.

Rebar – A fun walk over the bridge from Manhattan and a wonderful lunch special for like eight bucks.  This place was really unexpected for me – more of a restaurant than a bar.  It even has a movie theater in the back with car seats for chairs.  Fun stuff.

Lucky Dog – Very glad to discover that place.  Just a fun Bedford bar with some great people watching seats on the street in the front, a nice garden out back and shuffleboard.

Sunswick 3535 – This place has such a large food menu that I was completely blown away.  They have everything from wings to pizza to a full veggie friendly menu.  I will go back there again for sure.

Bronx Ale House – Going there is an adventure from the East Village.  Well worth the trip.  I was expecting a dirty dive bar and got a super clean Ale House with kick ass BBQ.  The beer here was great but for some reason what blew me away was the ketchup.  They have a smoker in the basement and smoke their own tomatoes to make their own Bronx Ale House Ketchup.  I would bathe in this ketchup it is so good.  After the beer we walked back into  Manhattan over the Broadway bridge and visited The Cloisters for the first time.  A very educational day.


Rian at Blind Tiger Ale House


A few old favorite bars that stood out include:

Jimmy’s 43 (awesome food/beer events each week)

Blind Tiger (going on Wednesday at around 2:00 for lunch is my favorite time to visit)

Rattle N Hum (biggest beer selection, awesome environment, great bus trips to breweries)

Barcade (simply one of the funnest places to go.  I’m always pleasantly surprised with what’s on tap)

DBA Brooklyn (Sundays in the summer is Tchoup Shop – some of the best Cajun food I’ve ever had)

I enjoyed all the places we visited.  I’m betting next year will even include more Good Beer Seal Bars.  So the future looks cheersy!

Riley McCormick